
Challenging The “Hope” Strategy - Andy Carlson - Hard Corps Marketing Show #248
In today’s technology savvy world, it is really easy to press the “send all” button and hope for the best. But is that enough? How can marketers be authentic and intentional with their content?
A Marketing Thought Leader, Salesforce Certified, Consultant, CMO at NuAge Experts, Andy Carlson, discusses how we can do better at creating a more personalized approach through email marketing.
Takeaways:
“Marketers are under pressure to always be communicating. But if we are not targeting, personalizing or making it relevant to the recipient then we will be ignored.” ~Andy Carlson
Database size does not matter if the contacts within it are not responsive or not receiving your content. Database cleansing can identify your valid contacts.
Breaking your content up and focusing on personas provides a thoughtful approach to email marketing. Identify your audiences and be more specific with who receives which content.
Personalizing the buyer’s journey, such as through bots that can chat to buyers after hours, enables us to focus less on the day to day mechanics of pushing out content.
Career Advice - Life’s a long race; take the time and enjoy the experience.
Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewscarlson/
NuAge Experts: https://nuageexperts.com/about/
Busted Myths:
The modern marketing tools today are helpful for automation, but they also allow us to be okay with pushing the “easy button.”
Ways to Tune In:
iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show/id1338838763
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1vVLpNI1LssMTiL6Kdsamn
Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show
Google Play - https://play.google.com/music/m/Im7mytmu2wa2mekhoeixlja5hpe?t=The_Hard_Corps_Marketing_Show
YouTube - Full video - https://youtu.be/jtiL84db71U
In today’s technology savvy world, it is really easy to press the “send all” button and hope for the best. But is that enough? How can marketers be authentic and intentional with their content?
A Marketing Thought Leader, Salesforce Certified, Consultant, CMO at NuAge Experts, Andy Carlson, discusses how we can do better at creating a more personalized approach through email marketing.
Takeaways:
- “Marketers are under pressure to always be communicating. But if we are not targeting, personalizing or making it relevant to the recipient then we will be ignored.” ~Andy Carlson
- Database size does not matter if the contacts within it are not responsive or not receiving your content. Database cleansing can identify your valid contacts.
- Breaking your content up and focusing on personas provides a thoughtful approach to email marketing. Identify your audiences and be more specific with who receives which content.
- Personalizing the buyer’s journey, such as through bots that can chat to buyers after hours, enables us to focus less on the day to day mechanics of pushing out content.
- Career Advice - Life’s a long race; take the time and enjoy the experience.
Links:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewscarlson/
- NuAge Experts: https://nuageexperts.com/about/
Busted Myths:
- The modern marketing tools today are helpful for automation, but they also allow us to be okay with pushing the “easy button.”
Ways to Tune In:
- iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show/id1338838763
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1vVLpNI1LssMTiL6Kdsamn
- Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show
- Google Play - https://play.google.com/music/m/Im7mytmu2wa2mekhoeixlja5hpe?t=The_Hard_Corps_Marketing_Show
- YouTube - Full video - https://youtu.be/jtiL84db71U
Creators and Guests

Host
Casey Cheshire
CEO & Founder of Ringmaster Conversational Marketing. Casey Cheshire is a marketer, serial entrepreneur, and adventurer. He has been in EO for close to 10 years and counts his relationships as a key reason for his continued success. Casey’s passion for podcasting led to him founding Ringmaster Conversational Marketing. Ringmaster helps B2B businesses launch podcasts that drive growth and revenue. Previously, Casey founded and ran Cheshire Impact for 10 years. It became the top Salesforce Pardot marketing automation solutions partner in the world before a successful exit in 2021. He is also a US Marine Corps Veteran where he served in the Infantry and deployed to some very hot climates. In his free time, Casey likes to skydive, climb mountains, and pretend to be a hungry bear for his two kids.