
The Public Relations Equation - Karla Jo Helms - Hard Corps Marketing Show #239
Public relations is often thought of as crisis management or press releases. But what if you could take PR tactics and use it to understand your target audience and boost ROI?
A Thought Leader, “Anti-PR” Strategist, Entrepreneur, Podcaster, Founder and Chief Evangelist at JoTo PR Disruptors, Karla Jo Helms, shares her knowledge of public relations and how to measure it.
Takeaways:
Factors such as the affected target audience size and the emotional level of the public based on what happened help determine the volume of communication needed to offset a PR incident.
In PR, it is important to identify the groups and thought leaders that influence your target audience. Speak through those communication channels to reassure those particular markets.
“You can apply the same crisis management strategy to mathematically go into a new market. Think who is the market, what is their psycho-emotional mindset, and who are their third party credibility sources.” ~KJ Helms
“You always have to have a story. It is what creates news today. It is all about what the problem is and thought leaders or people in that space lending their opinions on the topic.” ~KJ Helms
Number one rule for PR firms: Don’t ever talk about your products and services. Talk about the problems your clients are facing.
Career Advice: Believe in yourself!
Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlajohelms/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoToPR
JoTo PR Disrupters: https://jotopr.com
Busted Myths:
Public Relations can be measured! PR is leading people by their minds and to guide public view. It is much more than press releases!
Public Relations is analytical. You have to be very aware of your competitor’s public opinion and think a step ahead.
Ways to Tune In:
iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show/id1338838763
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1vVLpNI1LssMTiL6Kdsamn
Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show
Google Play - https://play.google.com/music/m/Im7mytmu2wa2mekhoeixlja5hpe?t=The_Hard_Corps_Marketing_Show
YouTube - Full video - https://youtu.be/8_sZughcGm0
Public relations is often thought of as crisis management or press releases. But what if you could take PR tactics and use it to understand your target audience and boost ROI?
A Thought Leader, “Anti-PR” Strategist, Entrepreneur, Podcaster, Founder and Chief Evangelist at JoTo PR Disruptors, Karla Jo Helms, shares her knowledge of public relations and how to measure it.
Takeaways:
- Factors such as the affected target audience size and the emotional level of the public based on what happened help determine the volume of communication needed to offset a PR incident.
- In PR, it is important to identify the groups and thought leaders that influence your target audience. Speak through those communication channels to reassure those particular markets.
- “You can apply the same crisis management strategy to mathematically go into a new market. Think who is the market, what is their psycho-emotional mindset, and who are their third party credibility sources.” ~KJ Helms
- “You always have to have a story. It is what creates news today. It is all about what the problem is and thought leaders or people in that space lending their opinions on the topic.” ~KJ Helms
- Number one rule for PR firms: Don’t ever talk about your products and services. Talk about the problems your clients are facing.
- Career Advice: Believe in yourself!
Links:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlajohelms/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoToPR
- JoTo PR Disrupters: https://jotopr.com
Busted Myths:
- Public Relations can be measured! PR is leading people by their minds and to guide public view. It is much more than press releases!
- Public Relations is analytical. You have to be very aware of your competitor’s public opinion and think a step ahead.
Ways to Tune In:
- iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show/id1338838763
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1vVLpNI1LssMTiL6Kdsamn
- Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-hard-corps-marketing-show
- Google Play - https://play.google.com/music/m/Im7mytmu2wa2mekhoeixlja5hpe?t=The_Hard_Corps_Marketing_Show
- YouTube - Full video - https://youtu.be/8_sZughcGm0
Creators and Guests

Host
Casey Cheshire
CEO & Founder of Ringmaster Conversational Marketing. Casey Cheshire is a marketer, serial entrepreneur, and adventurer. He has been in EO for close to 10 years and counts his relationships as a key reason for his continued success. Casey’s passion for podcasting led to him founding Ringmaster Conversational Marketing. Ringmaster helps B2B businesses launch podcasts that drive growth and revenue. Previously, Casey founded and ran Cheshire Impact for 10 years. It became the top Salesforce Pardot marketing automation solutions partner in the world before a successful exit in 2021. He is also a US Marine Corps Veteran where he served in the Infantry and deployed to some very hot climates. In his free time, Casey likes to skydive, climb mountains, and pretend to be a hungry bear for his two kids.